The Foreign Minister Bob Carr says it was right for the US president to
keep his commitment to attend the ASEAN summit despite the escalating conflict
between Israel and Gaza.
TONY EASTLEY: Australia's Foreign
Minister has defended the US president Barack Obama's decision to travel to
Cambodia for the ASEAN summit despite the escalating Gaza-Israel conflict.
Australia's Foreign Minister Bob
Carr says it was right for the US president to keep his commitment to attend
the event.
Senator Carr says Australia is
urging restraint from both sides.
He spoke to our reporter in
Canberra, Samantha Hawley.
BOB CARR: Well the starting point
is an absolute unequivocal condemnation of the firing of rockets into Israel by
Hamas and associated terrorist entities. That's the starting point.
And one must recognise that
Israel, like any country in a position where rockets are raining down on it,
raining down on civilian areas, has a right to defend itself.
But Australia, like Europe, like
the United States, is asking that at this stage everything be done on both
sides of this argument to protect civilians from further losses and Israeli
reaction, while understandable, has got to be proportionate.
SAMANTHA HAWLEY: Because
yesterday you said that Israel should be aware of the risk of feeding extremism
by what could be seen as a disproportionate reaction. So you're obviously
concerned that their reaction could be over the top?
BOB CARR: Well Europe and the
United States have made the same point. Australia makes the point that with the
Middle East in some uncertainty, with a complex and serious political
situation, there is a lot to be gained by restraint, even while the anger that
Israelis feel is very understandable.
Israel has an interest here as
well. The prospect of serious casualties, of soldiers being killed, wounded,
kidnapped, is very real for them.
SAMANTHA HAWLEY: But you do think
there is a risk, or that extremism is being fed here because of the reaction
from Israel - is that right, is that your view?
BOB CARR: I said potentially. If
the reaction by Israelis is disproportionate, if there are serious civilian
casualties, then - and this is a calculation the Israelis themselves will make,
they're astute enough to make it - the reaction would be very serious given the
uncertainty, the complexity, seriousness of the political ebb and flow in the
Middle East.
SAMANTHA HAWLEY: Well Israel is
massing its troops at the border, we know that. Would you urge against a ground
offensive?
BOB CARR: Well I'm urging Israel
to think very carefully about the, first of all, the proportionate response,
the proportionality of its response; and second to think about the prospect of
a heavy burden being borne by civilians.
But again, I do so from a
starting point that unequivocally condemns the rocket attacks made by Hamas and
associated terrorist entities on Israel from Gaza.
SAMANTHA HAWLEY: President Obama
is in Cambodia for ASEAN. Do you think that's the best place for him to be
given what we're seeing in the Middle East?
BOB CARR: Well there will always
be trouble in the Middle East and if an American president had to respond to
that by going nowhere, but sitting in the White House Situation Room, there'd
be nothing else achieved in American foreign policy.
Yeah, I don't think the president
can be criticised for keeping a commitment that Australia wanted him to keep
and that is attending to South East Asia.
TONY EASTLEY: The Foreign
Minister Senator Bob Carr speaking to Samantha Hawley.
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