We catch up with Dr. Sania Nishtar who was recently a panelist at the
2012 Annual Meetings of the IMF and World Bank in Tokyo, Japan.
In October 2011, Asian
Scientist Magazine featured
Dr. Sania Nishtar, Pakistan’s first female cardiologist and founder of
healthcare reform NGO, HeartFile. The focus then was on the launch of the Sania
Nishtar Health Fund, which was set up to sustain HeartFile Health Financing.
Fast forward 12 months, we once
again catch up with Dr. Nishtar who was recently a panelist at the 2012 Annual Meetings of the
International Monetary Fund and the World Bank in Tokyo, Japan. In this issue,
she shares with us updates from the seminars as well as her vision for
investments in public healthcare. This interview includes some of Dr. Nishtar’s
responses at the seminar.
You were recently a panelist at the program of Seminars of the IMF/World Bank Annual Meeting in Tokyo. We understand this is the first time health was featured prominently in the main program of seminars in this series of annual events. The title of the panel, “Investing in Health, Again,” was rather interesting. Could you tell us about the significance of the word “again” in the title?
You were recently a panelist at the program of Seminars of the IMF/World Bank Annual Meeting in Tokyo. We understand this is the first time health was featured prominently in the main program of seminars in this series of annual events. The title of the panel, “Investing in Health, Again,” was rather interesting. Could you tell us about the significance of the word “again” in the title?
In 1993, the World Development
Report, an annual report of the World Bank was published with the title Investing
in Health. That publication was quite a landmark because it coined, perhaps
for the first time, the notion that spending on health should not be viewed as
expenditure but as an investment. The report marked the beginnings of a number
of important transformations in the health sector.
In the years succeeding, a number
of important institutions and funds were created. Health-related official
development assistance (ODA) increased exponentially, although allocations to
health sector as a percentage of ODA remained fairly constant; In absolute
terms, aggregate increases were over 200 percent.
Around the same time, a number of
normative frameworks were established and important landmark commissions were
created such as the Macroeconomics Commission on Health and the Commission on
the Social Determinants of Health.
Later in the year 2000, the
Millennium Development Goals were agreed upon, in effect the world’s largest
promise to date. All these factors lent an impetus to investments in health by
stipulating time bound outcome-based targets. Goals 4, 5 and 6 in particular
were dedicated to health. In summary therefore, normative frameworks, new
funds, explicit targets and compelling evidence really gave a boost to
investments in health. And of course that was a time when growth and fiscal
space were not a problem at a global level.
But then came the financial
crisis in 2008 and since then there has been stagnation in support for health
and more broadly for development. Within this context, the word “again” in the
title of the seminar was meant to indicate that we must spur investments again.
In any case, we have high
expectations of the World Bank as far as health is concerned – after all its
new President Jim Young Kim has a strong background in public health and
understands exactly what needs to be done.
Is the financial crisis the only large event which has shaped the course of support for health internationally? What is the difference between 1993 and now?
Is the financial crisis the only large event which has shaped the course of support for health internationally? What is the difference between 1993 and now?
The world, of course, is a very
different place from what it was in 1993. Global interconnectedness has reached
a level never seen before. Technological and scientific innovations have
transformed the world; in particular in relation to connectivity and
communications.
There are new global forces so
the G20 matter as much as the G8. There are new global agendas of which
environment and climate change is the most salient. Overall there is a much
deeper understanding of the problems the world faces and also the solutions.
And of course the world has seen
a lot of upheavals in terms of resource realities during this time frame.
Terrorism is very much an overarching concern which nations face. So the world
has dramatically changed since 1993.
What do you think would be the priorities for investments in health today?
What do you think would be the priorities for investments in health today?
We have witnessed many decades of
investments in support of vertical disease specific targets, in particular
malaria, tuberculosis, HIV and AIDS and certain rare infectious diseases are
examples. Of course, significant strides have been made in terms of disease
eradication, prevention, control and alleviation of suffering and disability.
But the recent increase in
development assistance since the last decade and the aggressive pursuit of
vertical targets has also taught us a lesson – that without attention to the
core central systemic constraints at the systems level, we will not be able to
achieve vertical targets completely. Therefore more recently there has been an
emphasis on the systems that deliver vertical targets.
Consequently, the Global Fund and
the Global Alliance on Vaccination Initiative have opened health system
strengthening windows. The new health initiatives that have been created over
the last ten years all have a systems focus and major global forces are increasingly
according attention to the “pipes and plumbing” so to speak.
More recently however, there is
even a more comprehensive rethink around systems and delivery policy in the
shape of a renewed emphasis on Universal Health Coverage which has been termed
by Richard Horton, editor of The Lancet, as “the 21st century
equivalent of health for all.” The WHO has also placed a heavy emphasis on this
as their key policy tool and from the way countries seem to be embracing this
policy agenda, especially the emerging market countries where fiscal space is
relatively less of an issue, it seems that Universal Health Coverage will fast
become the new priority. Of course, we need to see what gets reflected in the
Sustainable Development Goals post-2015, but from the way things stand
Universal Health Coverage has become very important.
And then in terms of priorities
we should not forget the new public health agenda of non-communicable diseases
(NCDs). In 2011, there was a UN summit convened by the United Nations Secretary
General to mobilize attention and commitment towards addressing the biggest
global killers, i.e. non communicable diseases; a collective name given to
cardiovascular disease, chronic lung conditions, diabetes and certain cancers.
Of course, a whole new set of competencies are required at the public health
level to address them, and these will certainly mark the landscape of
priorities in health in the decade to come.
For example, Universal Coverage
is not just about health but is more of a social policy agenda. Similarly,
prevention and control of NCDs requires action outside of health. For these
reasons the development sector is according much attention to the notion of the
‘whole of society approach’ and the ‘whole of government approach,’ which will also
mark the prioritization as far as health sector and more broadly development is
concerned.
The word “investment” by definition suggests that there should also be some kind of return associated with the given spending. How do you make a case for investments in health?
The word “investment” by definition suggests that there should also be some kind of return associated with the given spending. How do you make a case for investments in health?
Investment in health is perhaps
one of the smartest investments because it yields a triple bottom line return.
First, a social return, not just in terms of better life expectancy, improved
health conditions and well-being, but also a sense of satisfaction among
citizens in a population.
Secondly, economic gains are a
very important part of the returns on investment. We now know that health care
costs are a very significant cost that nations have to bear.
Better investments in prevention
can help cut those costs. And not just that but also impact on lost
productivity in a positive sense. And then of course what we at my organization
are very passionate about is protecting people from catastrophic health
expenditures which push them into poverty.
Data from many developing
countries show that health shocks constitute one of the most significant
economic shocks faced by households. So, in essence there are many economic
gains from investments in the health sector.
And thirdly there are political
gains as well; the election in the United States is a case in point where
ideological differences around healthcare are a salient aspect of the election
debate.
Not everyone on your panel had the same view as you on investing in health. Could you share with us the discussion?
Not everyone on your panel had the same view as you on investing in health. Could you share with us the discussion?
Yes, of course. The minister of
finance of Uganda who was at the same panel was of the opinion that governments
have to make choices vis-à-vis investments but my point was that you cannot see
health in that way because health is a fundamental human right.
In fact, there are 119 countries
in the world where health is fundamentally recognized as a right and many
others where health is regarded as a right by virtue of an expansive
interpretation of the right to life. So we need to view investments in heath
from a ‘rights based’ lens.
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